Secrets of Yamashita / Japanese WW2 treasure

Bagong miyembro po. Nagmember kasi marami nga akong naririnig na mga treasure sa amin sa Paracale. Marami ngang mga sinasabi merong nakabaon sa simbahan, iyong nakuha ng dating mayor sa plaza at sa puno ng akasya sa harap ng simbahan.

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Ramrey,

When I was a beginner T. hunter, I almost believe what other hunters used to say. When they say  this man or woman are the best medium they ever know, I believe them without any hesitation. Of course, I'm a novice without any knowledge about hidden treasure. I have not seen a detector at that time. The tool that I usually saw at that time was the dowsing stick, in which the owner always say that it is 100% true and accurate. they have used it (according to him) so many times and they were able to recover gold (according to him again).
It did not occur to me at that time, that he is as zero balance as I am, if he was able to recover treasure according to him.
As I have told you, I was a novice and I believe whatever I heard from them.
To cut the story short, we have dug the hole to the depth that no one would like to go down anymore.
Someone has suggested that we have to consult a medium, and I just go along with my partners, (of course, they are more knowledgeable than me when it comes to treasure).
The medium said that the guarding spirit has transfered the treasure to a different place, that is why we did not find anything in our hole. She said the we should make offerings, and the whole group agreed to the suggestion. she assure us that it will not take month and we will get the treasure. Although I felt a bit rational, still I said to myself, (well, they know better).
To cut again the story short, 4 months had past and still we are digging up to the point that we run out of financing. So the project was stopped, and that was the time that I asked questions rationally.
These were the questions I asked to the medium:
1. Why were you called as a medium?
Ans: Because I can communicate with the spirit that guard the treasure.
2. Do you have third eye?
Ans: Yes, If I concentrate, I can see the treasure underneath and I know its location.
3. In communicating with the spirits, what is the most common things they say?
Ans: They say that the clean hearts can get the treasure.
4. If the T. hunter is not clean heart, what can they do with the treasure they are guarding?
Ans: They have the power to move the treasure to other place.
5. If these spirits are from Japanese, and they can move the object to other places, is it possible that these spirits move the treasure to Japan? Since they have the power and they own these treasures?
Ans: Pilosopo! Kaya hindi kayo makakuha ay dahil pilosopo ka!
6. If you are saying that you can see underneath the soil, How come you did not tell us earlier that the spirit had move the treasure to other place?
Ans: Hey! you are not the only T. hunters who needed my service, If you don't believe me, it is up to you! I'll go home now!

That was 15 years ago....Until now, I can still see that MEDIUM "helping" other T. hunters in locating burried treasures. And still, the spirits that guard these treasure are always "moving" the object when they are almost there. I'm just hoping that these spirits get "tired" and stop moving the treasure.

You see, that is my "learned" lesson, since that event happened 15 years ago, I came into conclusion that a person should think rationally to achieve his goal.

Another lesson that I have learned. " Do not take more than a man can chew".
Most hunters are "talking in tons of gold", wherein these tons are all imaginary...Why not be content with a "few kilos" if it is reality?
An electronic detector will give a hunter 40% rate of success....plus other knowledge which is 60%....

Gold Hunter


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gold hunter,

     So you have learned your lessons well, that is really nice to hear pero sinunog ka muna cguro ng manghuhula at tulisan na large mo. I do believe na marami tlaga na manloloko na medium, but not all of them ay manloloko. There are still a few whom i believe have the capacity na mag ahon, i will not argue with you since close na ang isip mo sa ganyan. As what i have said the medium is just part of the formula nanduon din ang fancy equipments, Tbook for the signs and markings, diggers and trusted people, and of course finance
     But what really fascinates me is that there are so many Thunters who posses this formula and yet they still fail. Does it mean this formula is not a guarantee of success?  Best thing we could do is pray for each others success, wag na lang tayo mag   siraan ng gamit natin, just wish them good luck na sana maka ahon kahit medium lang ang ginamit. Kasi kung d pa tayo naka experience makapag ahon wala tayo pwede ipag malaki.
     And your statement na imaginary lang ang tons of gold na pwede naka baon, suggestion ko sabihin mo yan kay gboy at sa kanya ka makipag debate, wala ako masabi diyan. Good luck pag sinagot ka ni gboy sa argumento mo na imaginary lang ang tons of gold.
                                                                                   
                                                                                ramrey                                   


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Ramrey,
 Yes that is true, I have learned my lesson. But take note, I still listen to some MEDIUM, however, they have to pass to my rational questioning, because I can not afford to loose money without ensuring the money is well spent.
The problem is, most of the Medium that I talked can not give me any reliable and specific information, like, what did he see inside? How deep? These questions are easily answered by the medium, but when I asked the third question, all of them back-out from the project?.
And this is the question:
Let us assume I believe you that the object you have seen is this and that, and it is this deep, If, we have reached that depth, and we have not found the object you mentioned, what are we supposed to do?

      You see, it is the same as an electronic detector, you just do not buy at the moment you have seen it. The detector?s capability has to be check, how much depth it can penetrate, technical information and the field test report of performance. The user must ensure the detector will function the way you expected from it, if not, you will be throwing money for the detector and to the expenses of the project.
Please do not get me wrong, I?m not debating any body about Medium, nor I am discrediting the methods use by other hunters, I am giving a rational reasoning so that others will not fall from the mistakes I have gone through?and still, it is up to them if they will heed to my advice. Treasure forum is not only about techniques, equipment and signs, it also includes the methods, system and logical thinking.

As everybody will notice, most of the stories about treasure in the Phil., are about grievances about their aborted projects. It only means that there are no proper planning before it was started. "Let whoever lead the project leads wherever it will take." Unlike with a well planned project, everything has been taken care of, contingencies are prepared, brain storming among members, and adopt the best solutions for the accomplishment of the project. If in a group, a member get offended because his suggestion was not followed, rest assured that the project will not be finished because of that. These people can not stand brain storming, specially they are ?pusong mammon?.
If with all of these preparations, the project is still not successful, how much more if the project is not well planned?

Those groups that were successful in their projects will definitely not herald their accomplishment, and it is ?suicide? here in the Philippines if you do that. And no one in his right mind will admit that they, he or she have successfully recovered treasure and gold?here in the Philippines. Even Marcoses and those politicians denies its existence?.
Tons of gold is true, in its real sense, but it became imaginary when somebody always ?nursing? it in their mind. Why dream for ?tons of gold? when one can have an 85% chance in recovering a ?few kilos? using his limited budget and limited equipment?
Is it not more logical?

Good Luck to all hunters.

My two cents,

Gold Hunter


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It seems hunters nowadays are really good and well experienced, that any words of advice are negated.
Well, I hope everybody will be succesful in their endeavours.
And I also hope that those who are posting about tons and tons of gold for the past 4 years will be able to have their fruit of labor.

Good luck and happy hunting...

Gold Hunter

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