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« Reply #130 on: August 25, 2009, 07:10:28 pm »
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Just a rational observation here?but, regardless of Congressman Louis McFadden?s speech of 1934 or other stop-gap claims?the ?boxes? and ?bonds? presented in this thread are fraudulent.

There is no relevancy to this ad hominem argument.

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« Reply #131 on: August 25, 2009, 07:34:11 pm »
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Industry Alert: Fictitious Instrument Fraud
ICE Issues Warning About Bogus Government Bonds

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« Reply #132 on: August 25, 2009, 07:39:22 pm »
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I'm new to this. Has anyone actually seen or held one of these notes or boxes?

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« Reply #133 on: August 25, 2009, 08:04:43 pm »
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Quote:Posted by fizzinator
I'm new to this. Has anyone actually seen or held one of these notes or boxes?


The "bonds" you have seen in this thread are like the ones in the news a few months ago.

Italy Intercepts Smugglers With $134.5 Billion in Fake Bonds

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« Reply #134 on: August 25, 2009, 08:16:12 pm »
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fizzinator,
  i have a sample of the 500million FRN ( which considered fake or copied). if you want i can sell it to you for usd50  (each) for study or a collection.let me know if interested.

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« Reply #135 on: August 26, 2009, 02:42:55 am »
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  i have a sample of the 500million FRN ( which considered fake or copied). if you want i can sell it to you for usd50  (each) for study or a collection.let me know if interested.


This is very bold, selling fraudulent material on an open forum.

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« Reply #136 on: August 26, 2009, 04:30:14 am »
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i dont think its a violation.because its a copied item anyway and this item doesnt have the origin.i also buy copied item at ebay and its not a violation. if you try to cheat and claim its original but its not ...that is a violation. admin any comment??

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« Reply #137 on: August 26, 2009, 03:45:54 pm »
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rational observer,
  i appreciate your concern...thanks here's some current copy coins at ebay for sale...there's a lot more.pls search."Lot 5 - 1879 CC MORGAN SILVER DOLLAR $ PROOF COPY COINS".

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« Reply #138 on: August 26, 2009, 03:54:28 pm »
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A "proof copy" is not a counterfeit coin or a facsimile coin. In any strike of a coin there are the proof coins which are the first done before the dies wear out. The proof copy is set aside to be sold as sets in cellophane to collectors. The rest of the coins are struck from the dies and as the dies wear, the quality diminishes.

Unfortunately for you, those imitation banknotes have been used to try and defraud people of their money which makes them an instrument of fraud even though they never existed. Making anything like that when used as fraud flags such things to the US Secret Service and it could cause lots of problems for people.

The sooner the holders of these pieces of paper acknowledge that they are not real instruments of tender the better of everyone will be. There is no secret society or agency trying to defraud you of anything by denying they exist. Besides, if you paid nothing for them, they are worth what you paid for them. If you paid for them, you are a victim of that fraud.

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« Reply #139 on: August 26, 2009, 09:43:26 pm »
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the intention of selling this note is for those people who always ask me...why i think the note is not real or a fake one.....the best thing so satisfy those people who are in doubt is to have a sample of this so that they will be convinced that these FRN's are not real.i can say its a fake because as i said....i have  scrutinized its contents character to character....now if people are not convinced..then get one from me....and do the investigation yourself.....bottom line did i break any violation or not.



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