Federal Reserve Box Series 1934
ramrey:
Hi emboland,
Sorry for the late reply i was in manila for 1 1/2 months doing some business there, nice to here from you what alkhobar looks now. That was 28 years ago since i have set foot in that country, with regards to your FRB notes i was wondering if this guys knew why are there FRB notes? Have they ever thought why the american gov't. made that kind of notes and why they are in the posession of those countries that the Japs have looted? Does anybody have an answer to this and do they really believe that it is worth a trillion dollars per baby box or mother box?
Buddy i'am also a davaweno and i would like to know is it possible to ask for a picture of your crystal ball or maybe we can take a picture of that coz i know some collectors who might be interested in your item. I live in Sasa Davao, City and nga pala and with regards to your FRB i think it would be hard to sell it since you have already opened it and it is not complete anymore. Thank you and i will wait for your next reply God Bless you buddy / ramrey
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FDS1332:
The Federal Reserve Bank with the supervision and direction of the US TREASURY started then to print and pack
a) Federal Reserve Bonds (FRB'S)
b) Federal Reserve Notes ( FRN'S )
c) Cash ( Currency ) Boxes, also known as Wells Fargo, First National City Bank and Bank of New York Boxes.
OVER ONE MILLION boxes were created, packed and shipped to the PHILIPPINES. There were about over 60 types of different boxes. The value of the smallest FRB / FRN boxes started at $ 25 BILLION plus 30 years interest at 4% per ANNUM (via Coupons).
The largest box this writer so far has encountered had a value of US$ 197 TRILLION and measured 3 x 3 x 10 meters containing bonds, notes, gold and cut polished diamonds.
Some of these boxes have names such as G-7, MOTHER BOXES, HEXAGON, OCTAGON, PENTAGON, TREATY, PRESIDENTIAL, CEMENT, COFFINS, REFRIGERATORS, ETC.
As with the Bonds and NOTES, printed in high quality on 1st class special paper, the boxes were made from special materials and of 1st class craftsmanship.
FRB'S and FRN'S were first packaged into a rubber type bladder, having a small looking glass on top, so that one could see the contents inside this bladder. This bladder was also charged with nitrogen gas to protect the contents from the
tropical environment (moisture and mildew).
The bladder was then placed into the metal box and then sealed. Each box has the following identity information stamped on top and sides.
a) Box Number
b) Security Code Number
c) PD Number
d) Serial Numbers (Numbers of 1st and last Notes of Bonds packed inside)
Some of the boxes have also an inventory list taped outside.
The value of the BONDS and NOTES printed, packed and shipped was ASTRONOMICAL and is mind boggling "QUADRILLIONS?.
These instruments were all backed by GOLD in bullion form with a purity of 99.95% As the US Government / FEDERAL RESERVE had become a monopoly in gold market they controlled the price of gold and offered to buy any amount of
Gold from private and commercial owners worldwide.
The smallest FRB / FRN box of $ 25 Billion was backed by 2,500 METRIC TONS of Gold.
At the end of WORLD WAR II, there were about more then 750,000 METRIC TONS of Gold in the PHILIPPINES mostly hidden in caves from the Japanese Invasion Force or sunk in the BAY of MANILA.
In exchange for CASH (US$) as well as FRB?S and FRN?S all remaining gold in Chinese banks was collected, loaded on seven (7) US war ships and brought to the US. The treaty with China stipulated that the Chinese could not get their
gold back for a period of 60 years. In the meantime these treaties have been adjudicated at the International Court in THE HAGUE in favor of the Chinese with the USA to start to settle the claims in 2008. The Hague Conference on
Private International Law (or HCCH, for Hague Conference/Conf?rence de la Haye) is the preeminent organization in the area of private international law.
There are over 30,000 CASH boxes stored in TAIPEI, TAIWAN as well as over 65,000 FRB and FRN boxes. The CASH box value is over US$ 3 TRILLION, the FRB and FRN box value is astronomical.
In 1947 the OSS (The Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was a United States intelligence agency formed during World War II. It was the wartime intelligence agency, and it was the predecessor of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA),
reprinted some of the FRB'S and FRN'S in the PHILIPPINES for clandestine operations. For this purpose new boxes were fabricated in the PHILIPPINES which were made from sheet metal and poorly constructed.
These bogus reprints were mostly made in small value boxes $ 25 B to $ 250 Billion since the large boxes were to complicated to be copied. It seems to me that the CIA is a US Government Agency and therefore the US should be
responsible for these boxes too.
In July 2006 Switzerland and the United States jointly signed the Hague Securities Convention, providing legal certainty to modern forms of holding and transferring securities. This marked an important step in the development of the new legal infrastructure needed to match modern systems for the holding, transfer, and pledge of securities.
THE HAGUE in favor of the Chinese with the USA to start to settle the claims in 2008.
No private owner can receive more than 0.5-2%
There are only one Security House that can receive the Boxes and make the Tramitations in Switzeland in Europe.
Boxes can not redime directly with FED because the gold have not entry never in EE.UU and for this reason them must to be negotiate in Europe only. Payement is maked by PPP.
Only full clean owners can redime. Not opened boxes can be pay at this moment.
Full tramitations will need 90-120 days.
On November 2008, some boxes has been payed. Last 30 April a new windows has been closed.
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juanbasil:
FYI for reading pleasure on FRN1934. [funny]
2.5 Trillion In Lost 1930's
US Treasury Notes?
Naive Scam - Or Secret CIA Counterfeits?
By Tim Luckhurst
The Scotsman - UK
9-20-3
A HAUL of $2.5 trillion dollars worth of United States Federal Reserve notes, dated 1934, bearing the signature of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, packed in sealed tins, some said to be protected by canisters of poisonous gas, does require explanation.
The prosecution alleged a naive scam, and the jury at Snaresbrook Crown Court in London this week believed them.
Michael Slamaj, 56, a Yugoslav-born businessman from Canada, and Graham Halksworth, 69, a retired forensic scientist who once worked for Scotland Yard, were found guilty of conspiracy to defraud. Slamaj was also convicted of possessing fake bonds.
The scheme was detected when two men tried to cash ?15.5 million of the notes at a Canadian bank. It was noticed that the word "dollar" was printed on the bonds instead of "dollars".
Slamaj was arrested after he asked a solicitor to help him sell ?31 million of the bonds. Police later recovered documents with a face value of ?93 billion from his safety deposit boxes.
But his defence team offered an alternative explanation for his possession of the bonds, one that just might be true and that delves deep into the murky history of the CIA?s post-war crusade to destabilise communism.
Slamaj claimed the vast haul was recovered from the wreckage of a B29 bomber that crashed on the Filipino island of Mindanao in 1948.
Professor Richard Aldrich, of Nottingham University and the co-editor of the journal Intelligence and National Security, was hired to investigate the claim - and his findings suggest it is plausible enough for Slamaj to have believed it in good faith.
As Chairman Mao?s forces advanced through China in 1948, says Prof Aldrich, Britain and the US dreaded the prospect that one of the world?s largest stocks of gold - worth $83 billion at current prices - would fall into communist hands. So it was decided to extract the gold reserves from China before the communists could seize them.
The CIA provided the means for this bullion-rescue mission. Flying in B29 bombers decked out in the livery of its proprietary civilian airline, Civil Air Transport (CAT), it flew numerous missions to move huge shipments of gold from mainland China.
Where might Federal Reserve notes have fitted into the operation? Prof Aldrich explains that they may have been used "for persuading managers of major banks in the interior of China to part with their vast stocks of gold".
Printing Federal Reserve notes to a value much greater than that of the gold they were intended to replace could have been an operational necessity. The US almost certainly had no intention of honouring them anyway.
In fact, suggests Prof Aldrich, the monetary instruments obtained by Slamaj may be intricate forgeries, but if they are, it is possible that the CIA manufactured them.
The story starts during the Second World War, when the counterfeiting of currency became a major area of covert actions by Britain?s Special Operations Executive (SOE).
The US was not slow to learn SOE?s lesson. After 1945, economic warfare against communist states became a central instrument of Cold War policy.
Activity against China was on the grand scale and the regional centre for US covert operations in Asia was the Philippines. The CIA maintained sophisticated printing presses in Manila for the purpose. Its main base for secret air force operations was close by.
In his submission to the trial Prof ldrich suggested that if the notes are forgeries, they "were most likely manufactured at the CIA?s ?regional service centre? [RSC]" - located along Roxas Boulevard, in Manila, at the seafront compound about a mile from the US Embassy.
He also found evidence to support Slamaj?s defence in the files of the Foreign Office. He wrote: "Foreign Office files also show that the CIA was involved in other currency issues, including the movement of printing plates for Chinese currency."
He said: "I note that the chronology of this operation fits very closely with that set out by the defendants."
Would the CIA really have printed such a vast quantity of these bonds and risked flying them into occupied China on vulnerable aircraft? Prof Aldrich says: "Because of the possibility of operational loss, surplus amounts of FRNs [Federal Reserve notes] were required.
"Regional banks receiving FRNs in return for their gold were aware that the FRNs were likely to be redeemable for only a proportion of their face value. Therefore a much larger value in FRNs would have been required than the total value of the gold that the Americans and Chinese nationalists were trying to extract from China."
Slamaj is preparing to appeal. He remains adamant that he truly believed the notes were authentic. If that is the case, Prof Aldrich suspects the CIA expected them to disappear into civil-war China and that their re-emergence has threatened to lift the lid on still classified aspects of economic warfare.
He says: "I cannot prove these FRNs were part of the operation to extract gold from China. But there is absolutely no doubt that such an operation took place.
?2003 Scotsman.com
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1934 MORGENTHAU TREASURY BONDS
A problem that has been most prevalent in the Far East recently surfaced in London when officers from the City of London Fraud Squad seized fake $US Treasury Bonds with a nominal value in excess of $2.5 trillion.
On the first occasion $2.5 trillion worth of these bonds was seized from a safe keeping vault of a bank in the City of London in an assortment of 44 boxes, files and envelopes. Among the haul were a number of counterfeit Chinese Railway Bonds dating from the early part of the 1900s.
Although genuine Chinese Bonds have a collector's value of about ?20 each, the faked US Treasury Bonds are well known to the US Secret Service and other law enforcement agencies, in Hong Kong, Singapore, the Philippines, and Canada. Attempts have been made by fraudsters to use them as collateral for loans or to obtain money from naive investors.
On the second occasion a number of people were arrested in the City of London after presenting billions of dollars worth of these bonds to a financial institution attempting to obtain 'facilities'. Two women have been charged.
The story usually given by the fraudsters is that these bonds were printed by the CIA and given to Chiang Kai Sheck who opposed Chinese Communism in the 1930s. However, so the story goes, some were lost and were then found in caves/crashed aircraft/sunken submarines (take your pick) by illiterate natives who passed them on to city slickers in exchange for a few trinkets. The fraudsters have even attached details of a B17 bomber, its tail number and details of the crew which perished in a crash in the rain forests of some distant tropical island.
Investors in the Far East have parted with huge sums of money to buy these bonds at 1? on the dollar. In June 2001, a US resident shot his wife and two children then turned the gun on himself after finding that these bonds, which he tried to cash at the US Bureau of Public Debt, were complete fakes.
Invariably, the bonds are contained in what looks like a metal box with a serial number and a key number. The seal of the United States is usually embossed on to box lid. Once opened, the box will contain the bonds (which have a peculiar creosote aroma), sometimes large and heavy yellow metal coins in denominations of anything from $100m - $1bn, a negative film roll and a supporting documents such as an international certificate of immunity.
Although the Treasury Bonds are well presented, the fraudsters did not realise that the various Federal Reserve Banks have codes attached to them as follows:-
Boston: A; 1 Richmond: E; 5 Minneapolis: I; 9 New York City: B; 2 Atlanta: F; 6 Kansas City: J; 10 Philadelphia: C; 3 Chicago: G; 7 Dallas: K; 11 Cleveland: D; 4 St. Louis: H; 8 San Francisco: L; 12
Some of the treasury notes have the incorrect seal code for the Federal Reserve Bank purporting to have issued the note. How did this happen? Quite simply, the fraudsters cut and pasted images of current $US currency into the bonds and they didn't look too closely or they didn't understand what the codes meant. On occasion, if you know where to look, you can see the remnants of the currency that they have tried to hide or cut in the process.
If you are presented with documents of this nature, the US Secret Service at the US Embassy would be delighted to hear about it and will assist in any way that they can.
For other examples of this high profile crime please see the following web pages:-
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Revised: 17 June 2002
Note - In spite of the above dismissals, there is actually circumstantial evidence to suggest the basic premise of this story just have some truth to it: that a HUGE dollar amount of legal and legitimate special issue, extremely large denomination US Treasury notes were created and ended up in the Phillipines just before WWII.
It is further conjectured that one or more of the transport planes carrying the sealed boxes containing the Treasury notes DID crash...and that a good portion of the notes either washed up on shore in their boxes, or were found at an inland crash site, and then made their way to a number of different people...mostly powerful Phillipinos. Remember the Marcos fortune? It was reputedly a lot bigger than the media knew and Imelda is pressing in court to this day to try to recover at least some of it.
There have, over the years, been a number of attempts by various individuals and groups to redeem some of these Treasury notes (real or hoaxed)...with alleged values of $20 million to $100 million dollars US...for cash at banks and other financial institutions around the world.
As far as is known, all efforts to collect have failed...the banks and institutions have been told, it is suggested, that under NO circumstances are they to cash the notes. As one might imagine, the US Treasury is more than a little concerned about the potential of a couple trillion in legitimate Treasury notes floating around or getting into the hands of adversaries.
We have received reports that the Treasury has conducted secret talks with a few of the note holders and has made offers to redeem them for a small percentage (1-10%) of their face value. The Treasury clearly wants these notes turned in and removed from 'circulation'...but will not pay full face value for obvious reasons.
If anyone has anything further - of substance - on this story, please let us know. --ed
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cap miwa:
in my recent return, i was able to photograph a seems genuine FRB, the holder has shown me the box containing 12 small boxes that contain 250 bonds worth US$1Billion each. here's some photos, the front and back of one of the 12small boxes. i have other photos to show... anyone interested?
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golden eagle:
Hi Cap Miwa,
I can help and supply you with some information regarding this topic.
Pls email: goldeneagledave@yahoo.co.uk.
Thanks
Goldeneagle
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cap miwa:
golden eagle,
thanks. check your email...
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sbjhr:
hi goldeneagle, my uncle have in his possession a complete sets of motherbox containing 11 boxes, plus master control box. do you have an idea how do we proceed for the commodity reward program?
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golden eagle:
Dear sbjhr,
Officially there is not a redemption program for FRB or FRN runnining at this time.
The Fed.Reserve as a collective of Banks who produced these bonds and notes
will not officially acknowledge that these historical instruments have any commercial value or indeed can be redeemed for a small financial reward as historical instruments (0.5-2% of thier face value).
The major concern I have regarding any redemption program is how a holder of such boxes can enter an "unofficial redemption program" not knowing 100% that the boxes and thier contents are not fake. If anyone tries to sell such boxes back to a buyer who, during the transaction finds out that the boxes are indeed fake, the holder and the agents involved will go to prison for up to 7 years, and will be extradited to the U.S. to serve this sentence. It is the responsibility of the holder/seller and the agent(s) to prove 100% that the boxes and the contents are 100% genuine BEFORE offering such historical instruments for sale to any foundation who may want to purchase the contents of such boxes.
Is there a way forward??
Yes, there is......The ground rules are simple, the holder or seller must first have the boxes and the contents examined by an independant body who are specialists in authenticating such historical assets. This costs the holder or seller money.
Once this is done the independant body produces a report that states whether the FRB or FRN are fake or genuine.
Once this done, legal eagles get involved in a possible exchange between the holder/seller and a buyer who is usually refered to as a foundation.which results in financial reward If other criteria has been met and satisfied.
The timescales for such a transaction can vary from 4-10 weeks, and whether the FRB in question is allowed to be redeemed by the foundation who purchases a small number of these boxes a year. These transactions are shrouded in great secrecy, and you will need guidance and legal advice before starting this process.
I suggest you contact aquila.chrysaetosdavid on skype for further details regarding this subject. Aquila will supply you a detailed procedure that must be followed.
God Bless
goldeneagle
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cap miwa:
hi sbjhr... do you have a photo of that box? can you post some so we can make a preliminary evaluation if it is genuine or fake?
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FDS1332:
Redemption windows will close on 15 July 2009.
If more information is needed ask me to:
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