Lost Dutchmans Mine

I beg to differ...

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Why is it that Mr. Goldfinger, after making a "Public Statement" !
" If you can produce a report...I'll buy the fact

		Quote:			Posted by Goldfinger
	If you can produce a single report from the USGS or a reputable mining company that talks about an economically viable deposit of gold in the Superstition Mtns- perhaps I'll buy the fact there could be a Lost Dutchmans Mine. Until then-

" !

Now! Off Handedly, says "Regradless" !
When I offer to present him with, Factual Evidence ?
Not!
The kind of Open Minded Person I thought that he was !

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Cptbil n' Bugs

For what it is worth, I was shown 2 old mines in the Superstition mountains not too far from  Apache Junction, as well as  the obvious remenants of an Astara ( ?spelling) I  also found specks of Gold  that had collected in small  crevices filled with water, along the face of some cliffs.

Geologist told me the same thing. Volcanic plug is not conducive to Gold bearing geology.  But, that doesn't explain any  logic for Gold ore mined at the base of the Superstion, and  transported up a rugged mountain to be crushed by astara's on the mountain. Nor, does it explain where the Peralta miners  were bringing  the donkey loads of Gold from when the were killed by the apaches at what is now known as the massacre grounds.

Nor does the Geologist explanation cover the many "Chiminey's" of Gold found in other states as a result of ancient volcanic activity?

Personally, I think the Lost Duchman Legend is totally insiginificant to the tons of Gold, mined and smelted by Mexican miners, and still remains stored inthe Superstitions.  Add to that, the possibility of Treasure from Spain, being entrusted  to Peralta, by King Ferdinand VII, being deposited in the Superstitions. Treasures stored there by the Jesuits, and Aztec treasure.

Granted, it appears that much of the Spanish mining took place around the base of the Superstitions. The Apaches, showed me where some of those mines were, and explained how their women and children filled in the mines with Rocks and dirt, brush was dragged by horses, and new vegetation was planted to hide all trace of the White man's quest for Gold.

If you are looking  for the easier troves of smelted Gold, I would suggest you follow the trail across the desert from the Superstitions, to Mexico.

Although it is not Spanish related, I think you will find several tons of Smelted Silver at the SW corner of Florence Junction, extending  South and South West, from the private airstrip.  It's on State property, so permitting is required to enter the property carrying any type of metal locating equipment or suffer strong penalities. However, It's easy to obtain a permit to fish, or hunt, and enter the property. Just don't get caught with a metal detector, or other Treasure hunting devices.

Good luck to all!     Dell

 

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Who ever said anything was exgarrated? The mine description is the same as it always was, "Rich enough to make a lot of us millionairs". "The richest deposit of gold I've ever seen".



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Well, that is true in many many cases, but not in this case. Although people have been lying about clues, etc for years, the gold ramains the same. No-one really knows how great the mine is, other than reports of it being the richest mine Waltz had ever seen. There have been some conflicting reports on exactly what type of ore it is, as I've heard Rose Quartz, "like stars in the night sky", wire gold, chimney deposit, etc, the theme remains the same, it's an insanely rich deposit.

Not only is there the Dutchmans story, but many other in the same area have found gold, and also the reports of the Spanish mining the area (see the Massacre Story). So it's not just a single lost mine you see, or a single report of gold, but many many sources.

The problem with that is the stories get intertwined sometimes and you wind up with clues to 3 different places being mixed together, leading to a single place.

There is also documented proof that Waltz sold a lot of ore, and sent money to his relatives. Then there's the matchbox ore, and the rest of what was under his bed when he died...

This all started before the Dutchman died you see, he was telling Julia and Rhiney where the mine was, and what was in it before he even died, so it's not like some old miner died up in the mountains and everyone started gossiping. They have words directly from his mouth, which is different than most lost mine stories...

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