Tesoro Tiger Shark Salt mode Fail!

I agree... no more mud wrestling... I will wait till I get a reply from Tesoro before commenting on the subject.  But if it turns out not to be operational error.... it's ON GD... prepare for a "pile-driver" out of nowhere .. Muhahahaha

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		Quote:			Posted by Viracocha
	But if it turns out not to be operational error.... it's ON GD... prepare for a "pile-driver" out of nowhere

Watch yourself your pushing the line. I think in your best interest you need to drop this subject now.

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It sure didn't look like a review to me!
After reading all the posts, I'm now trying to get this image of Eric Cartman of South Park riding his big wheel tricycle and yelling "Yew weel respekt mah AUTHORATAAAH!" unstuck from my mind. 

Anyways, the process of troubleshooting often involves eliminating possible causes of the problem one by one. Sometimes it's straightforward, sometimes not. Let's review what we have so far.

1) Operator error.
IMO, very small chance of this being the cause, since Viracocha has taken the user manual's instructions to heart, and had mastered ground-balancing a Turkish detector in the past.

2) Defective detector.
Lets wait and see what Tesoro says.

3) Bad ground conditions.
Nickel_n did make mention of his Seahunter having problems in hot ground, and that prompted a thought!
For this case, the "ground" conditions are not just the sea bed/beach. The sea water may play a role too. Please bear with me for a bit while I explain.
In very deep water, there exist pools of brine, usually associated with cold seeps. I put forth the premise (unlikely as it seems) of quakes and underwater landslides causing such pools of dense brine to be displaced and roiled up to join currents in the upper parts of the ocean. If this extra-salty water makes it without too much dilution to shallower areas, could it adversely affect the performance of detectors?

I've often boated through patches of sea which smell saltier than other patches of equidistance from land/confluences of fresh and salt water. And if I may make bold to extend this premise a bit further, there are patches of water which positively reeked of ammonia (which I attribute to a passing whale performing the process of eliminating bodily wastes). Would a patch of whale-urine seawater similarly affect detector performance?

Viracocha, you wrote that you used a backup detector (make and model not mentioned) in the same area, and it did it's job properly. I'm wondering if you attempted to use the Tiger Shark again in that same spot AFTER using your backup detector? If the contents of the water do indeed affect detectors, maybe you were merely unlucky to have tried to ground balance the Tiger Shark just when the seawater was particularly adverse. Admittedly, this premise seems flimsy....but I'm curious to know.


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		Quote:			Posted by GoldDigger1950
	The word FAIL is the issue and the following comments.

Seriously GD, are you essentially saying that the usage of the word "FAIL" turned Viracocha's problem with his Tiger Shark into a review of the Tiger Shark? I cannot agree with you there. To me eyes (when I first saw the posting title on the home page), it was that he simply has a detector named 'Tesoro Tiger Shark'  that had failed to perform in salt mode. Whether that is true or not of each and every Tesoro Tiger Shark unit is not implied to me in that statement. I'm not taking Viracocha's side for the sake of it; just saying I can't see any sign of a detector review in this thread.

I can commiserate with GD in urging Viracocha to wait until Tesoro has had a chance to examine the machine before he writes anything about it. That would be the logical thing to do. And why can I commiserate with GD? Simple answer: the Nokta Golden King. There is a partial parallel here. The Nokta was much-bashed by others, I have a unit and know it works in my hands. GD has a Tiger Shark and knows it works in his hands and we have no reason to doubt that. But that is where the parallel ends. Viracocha is not bad-mouthing or bashing the machine; he simply has encountered a problem with his unit and was hoping to gain insight into the predicament. And I doubt any others will jump in to bash Tesoro, unless a particular batch of Tiger Sharks came out defective.

As a fellow detectorist, I know how much we love and treasure our machines. Viracocha (probably in an anxious state of mind) was simply wanting to know if any other users had a similar problem. The man was most likely a bit upset (6 hr drive, ferry ride and finding that his virtually-new detector would not work). I know I would be too, if in his shoes. It only takes a spark to fall on the dry tinder of an upset man, and a conflagration ensues. 

Adding fuel to the fire was the phrase "as a moderator" (which eventually escalated into "may run you afoul of all the moderators, not just me"). Heavy-handed usage of the phrase, me thinks, and most definitely uncalled for. Save it for situations that actually warrant moderation, GD! After all these years, I'm used to the "style" of you mods, and I believe that you all are essentially good people with a penchant for helping others. But what of newcomers who happen to read that? I daresay it would scare them off this forum. And if this keeps happening, we'll end up with only moderators taking part in contests held by other moderators, and only moderators talking amongst themselves in the Prospecting section with thick-skinned Hobbyist occasionally chiming in. Come to think of it.....it's happening already! AAAARGH!

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		Quote:			Posted by GoldDigger1950
	his words finished the job by condemning a piece of equipment before he even knows whether or not it IS his equipment. Perhaps he has discovered a sunken vessel 6 feet below the sand.

Non sequitur. He had used a backup detector in that area with success.

		Quote:			Posted by GoldDigger1950
	Yet you now seem to be defending bad behavior just because the comments are coming from a moderator and his objection is directed TOWARDS one. You guys just do not have a clue what we do here and you feel free to criticize us relentlessly.

Oh the drama! Firstly if anyone is making an issue about user vs mod, it's YOU, GD. Until post #4, I saw no instance of bad behavior. Had you used a less antagonistic phrase like "As a fellow detectorist with much experience, I would advise you to..." instead of throwing your moderator weight around unnecessarily, things may have gone in a more pleasant way. But like I said, I've grown accustomed to the "style" of you guys, and do not expect any change. Carry on.


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