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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2017, 04:47:28 pm »
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That is a big help. We've not got much experience outside of searching our little plot for this lost inheritance. It's great to discover a community of people who do this and aren't interested in making sales pitches for products. You search the manufacturer websites and you hear all sorts of glass-half-full stories. I'll pass the word along and maybe we'll just go in deep and purchase two detectors--the TM 808 and a variety of PI detector. Is there a reason one would prefer the TDI SL over the MXT? Are the coils interchangeable for the MXT and TDI?


The Only reason I would use the SL over the MXT is if the ground is highly mineralized, Although the MXT is multi talented because is Loves Natural Gold and has the best Ground Tracking system ever made The use of different coils means you can use it for just about anything, If your ground is highly mineralized then you would need to fit a Large DD coil on it to get the best out of it, I have about 8 Coils for mine and "NO" the MXT Coils will not fit the TDI and vice versa,

With the TDI SL you need to Run it with the Ground balance set to the right position to suit the ground which is easy where as with the TDI Pro to get the best depth you have to run it with the GB Off,

So Ground balance the SL to suit your Soil and set the Delay to 10us turn the Gain Flat out and set the threshold to a very slight hum and the conductivity to "ALL" and you are good to go, just remember that the factory NiMh battery pack lasts for about 4 hours 20 minutes and if you want to get long run time then buy some Energizer Ultra Lithium disposable batteries and they will last a Day and a half, Only use the normal engizers as a backup for when the NiMh battery pack goes flat,

Hope this helps.

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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2017, 12:06:35 am »
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That is a big help. We've not got much experience outside of searching our little plot for this lost inheritance. It's great to discover a community of people who do this and aren't interested in making sales pitches for products. You search the manufacturer websites and you hear all sorts of glass-half-full stories. I'll pass the word along and maybe we'll just go in deep and purchase two detectors--the TM 808 and a variety of PI detector. Is there a reason one would prefer the TDI SL over the MXT? Are the coils interchangeable for the MXT and TDI?

Stop for a second and try to think like your GG Grandfather.
If You were going to hide something would you just put it in the middle of the paddock?
Even if the area that is buried is just an acre that’s a big era.
Wouldn’t you choose a closed by land mark that you could identify easily?
The third post to the left of the gate is easier to go back 3-4 years down the track than 30 meters east of the shed.
If I was you I would try first to guess where it may be rather looking randomly.
LOOK for a land mark with soft ground around it.
It’s not easy to dig 3-4 feet on hard ground
Then I may be wrong again. Sad


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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2017, 12:44:20 am »
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No one has said anything about just a regular probe to locate soft dirt? I have seen my F75 do some deep signals. But I think your pushing the vlf tech as posted here. I too have 3 different detectors so I dont get skunked. Since this is in clay I would say move on as clay does a number om my machines. GD is right about crubbing and lowering the GB. Before I got a Etrac I would use it on F75 to drive my Etrac friends nuts. Take a probe and look for a depression or get a bull dozer. Good luck.

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2017, 06:48:30 am »
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    How old is this Cache???
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« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2017, 03:01:04 pm »
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It has been in the ground since around 1910.

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« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2017, 03:09:03 pm »
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Any type of metal lid would have turned into a Ion cloud in the dirt making a larger target I would think.   Huh?

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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2017, 03:45:33 pm »
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According to the story my great grandfather passed down to my grandfather, the coins were put into a stone jar. Cotton was added, then a block of wood, finally the ceramic lid was sealed on with bee's wax and the whole thing was buried. Two or three targets.

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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2017, 06:30:11 pm »
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Bawilliams78 wrote:
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The actual target(s) we're looking consist of pre-1900 gold coins in large 2-gallon stoneware jars (similar to the one pictured). It was buried by my great, great grandfather; however, he had a stroke and died before he could reveal the location to his son, my great grand father.
With a diameter of 5in and a height of 12in, buried 3ft deep, the coins were put into a stone jar. Cotton was added, then a block of wood, finally the ceramic lid was sealed on with bee's wax and the whole thing was buried.

The following may help save many days of digging:
   
Take a 5/8 inch cold rolled rod about 5-6 feet long and weld a 7/8 to 1 1/8 inch ball bearing on one end of the rod.  Next grind a flat spot on the ball bearing to then weld a 1 inch long point made out of 5/8 inch rod to the ball bearing to form the point like a spear point. 
To use take a 3-8 lb. hammer to drive the probing rod to help find softer soil 3-4 feet down as well to determine what the intended target is made out of.   If the target is rock, metal, or glass one can even hear by sound as one is hammering through.
Hope this helps saves many days to weeks of digging.



Posted on: April 17, 2017, 04:43:05 pm
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This one forgot another idea to help determine if the 'Target' is metal with the above probing rod made out of 5/8 inch steel rod.  If one hears the ring of metal when hammering stop and connect a 'Two box detector' transmitter antenna wire to the 5/8 inch steel rod to 'conduct a direct signal' to the metal ringing target to help determine the size, depth and shape of that target.  Idea
Hope this helps.
Spare me at least one coin  when you find it........ Grin

Posted on: April 17, 2017, 05:00:08 pm
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Another advantage of using the steel rod probe is that one maybe able to wait until the heavy rains of winter hit to use more effectively.  One may be able to probe down 5 feet through wet clay in as little as 3-5 minutes compared to rock hard dry clay of summer time.  Violent 
Don't forget to listen for the breaking of stoneware jars when one is on target then the sound of metal coins that a 'Two box detector' can then signal through by direct wire to TX coil wire no matter how deep the target is just in case it is 6 feet down or more.   Shocked  Clapp

 

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If one metal detects and mark spots say in the dryer months one maybe able to then probe say 200- 400 test probe holes in only 1 - 2 weeks when the clay soil is wet with water?
By the way the probes are so cheep maybe make 2-4 of them.  Idea

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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2017, 06:33:45 pm »
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   The old CB Whip Antenna make dandy probes for that stuff.

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The old CB Whip Antenna make dandy probes for that stuff.

The CB Antenna may kink up say about 2 1/2 feet down or as soon at it hits rock.  The 5/8 inch steel rod will likely punch on through the stoneware jar some metal and even  rocks if needed to help determine what the target really is with out digging say 360 test probe hole targets ( 5 to 6 feet down if needed) found with the metal detector of your choice.   Detecting
As a added benefit when one hears the thud ringing of metal can then 'Direct connect the TX coil of a Two box detector' to help find the size and shape of the target.  Idea



Posted on: April 17, 2017, 06:48:25 pm
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This one has only seen pictures of gold coins so if you can send a spare  damaged gold coin my way when you find the stoneware jars full of coins........ Grin  Kiss.

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