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	If i can get my 4x4 down there i'll give it a cuddle with my tow chain and chain saw, the saw runs on 2 stroke ,i run on Fosters or JD & coke LOL See karl all we had to do was gas Brian up and he's ready to ROCK there's no stoppin him now john

Wish i was close enough to help, would be glad too, Brian keep on trucking !!

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"Keep Digging Its Down There Somewhere" Treasure Hunting, Gold and Coins.

My my Waulespan certainly seems to know his stuff.  The only problem with you matey is you seem to have such a grudge to bear against the members of the BGA it spoils your postings.  The BGA are doing everything they can to help move Goldpanning forward and I believe we panners should let them get on with discussions with the authorities so that correct procedures are FINALLY put into place.

You also take issue with two of our most long-term panners in the business, you are vitriolic in your condemnation of them, why is this?  what harm have they done you?  They are supporting fellow panners in their actions and hoping to achieve some semblance of order within the community again.

We panners are so upset about the events in Wales, we want to return there but in the right way.

You are trying to get support from Mike Jones, who you don't know!!!  His wife and Mike great personal friends of mine so please leave them alone.

Why are you so vicious in your comments towards some of our colleagues?  You should step away from this hobby of ours if it is causing YOU so much grief.  You are on this wonderful site for Metal Detecting, so carry on with that as a hobby and leave the Goldpanning world.  You seem to want to "wind everyone" up with all your nasty, hateful comments.  Leave it alone please and also I think you should post an apology to Mr Andrews and Mr Thirkettle especially as you have, no doubt, caused them quite a lot of unhappiness in your comments.

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May Flint as this is a low key free speech forum Waulespan is pressenting problems and attitudes of which he has come up against
during his time at trying to enjoy his hobby, as this is his view of accounts we respect that we may not agree with him or we might
even dislike his view but the one thing that makes this forum differant to others is we remain nuteral as things can get personal.
and thats not a good thing and can lower moral as i have seen in the past,

It would be great to hear your views of the current situation reguarding gold panning in wales as it is very useful to get good
information from another prospective, As we have alot of prospecters from around the world.

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	My my Waulespan certainly seems to know his stuff.  The only problem with you matey is you seem to have such a grudge to bear against the members of the BGA it spoils your postings.  The BGA are doing everything they can to help move Goldpanning forward and I believe we panners should let them get on with discussions with the authorities so that correct procedures are FINALLY put into place. You also take issue with two of our most long-term panners in the business, you are vitriolic in your condemnation of them, why is this?  what harm have they done you?  They are supporting fellow panners in their actions and hoping to achieve some semblance of order within the community again. We panners are so upset about the events in Wales, we want to return there but in the right way. You are trying to get support from Mike Jones, who you don't know!!!  His wife and Mike great personal friends of mine so please leave them alone. Why are you so vicious in your comments towards some of our colleagues?  You should step away from this hobby of ours if it is causing YOU so much grief.  You are on this wonderful site for Metal Detecting, so carry on with that as a hobby and leave the Goldpanning world.  You seem to want to "wind everyone" up with all your nasty, hateful comments.  Leave it alone please and also I think you should post an apology to Mr Andrews and Mr Thirkettle especially as you have, no doubt, caused them quite a lot of unhappiness in your comments.

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May Actually he has'nt bought this forum into disrepute, what he has done is share his thoughts,efforts and fustrations, and your
 previous two posts are about him not about the gold panning in Wales, so i am still none the wiser.
What we the forum would like to here is about the gold panning in Wales not views of people who we dislike for what ever reason
I can see his fustrations and views but what about your views, this forum is only about treasure ,gold, detecting, panning and
anything to do with legends map ,LRLs or anyother means of this hobby it's not for pursueing people because we don't like what
they say, because if it was i'd be taking a bit out of alot of people and that would just distroy the reason of this forum'
So please May give us what we need from another prospective otherwise the topic falls flat,

take care talk soon

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All friendly gold panners are welcome to join Gold Rivers Trust, which is having positive results in discussions with the authorities, unlike the BGA. The BGA was booted out of Wales because they are unable to guarantee that their members will act responsibly. The two 'negotiators' have been running expensive courses for the gullible for many years in Wales and Scotland, in breach of access laws which prohibit these commercial activities. The BGA reps shamefully colluded with the authorities to single me out as a scapegoat for the activities of many other irresponsible panners, bank diggers etc. I have met with police and the various authorities to set the record straight. I am now the only panner who has any official recognition in Wales. The others, preferring to act in the shadows, are too nervous to face up to the authorities and speak up for the rights of recreational panners and student geologists. I am in communication with important educational establishments and national charities about these issues. If the situation had been left as it was, irresponsible clandestine panning activities would have continued on private rivers. I freely admit that I worked in the open and that this annoyed the various panners who wanted to continue to work unlawfully and for private gain. They cannot claim to be 'leisure panners' in any sense. I will have more interesting news about the Crown agents and ongoing negotiations at a later stage. However, anyone who would like specific answers can email me privately. It is pointless and irresponsible to use the open forum to air greivances without first checking the facts by all other means available.
 

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