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What is your opinion about mf is it used at same time more freq or one freq in text bellow
also advantage/disadvantage if is possible to use couple freq at same time


The term "multi-frequency" and MineLabs is a bit confusing, because they actually only run on one frequency at a time (from the research I did). When you first power them on, they search for a clear frequency (one) and then operates on that. They do not process but one at a time. And minelabs loves to set back in the shadows and let this conversation roll on.

You can't choose a frequency,
The display doesn't give you anything about the other 27 frequencies,
If you want to hunt lets say gold, you cannot select the best frequency for that, its chooses the quietest one.
It doesn't even tell which one its selected.

They would have you believe that the detector is constantly scanning the ground with 28 frequencies and then based on what metal it hit it uses the best one for that metal, not so! its running a pre-selected one based on it was the one with the lest interference.


What I don't know for sure is do they have a REAL 28 frequencies to choose from, or are the 28 just harmonic frequencies and the detector actually has a much less number to run on, like 3, 5, maybe 10 Who knows, but one thing for sure Minelabs isn't going to come out and settle this, in the shadows they like all the talk, its keeps the name in the top of the post in forums all over the world.

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	What is your opinion about mf is it used at same time more freq or one freq in text bellow also advantage/disadvantage if is possible to use couple freq at same time The term "multi-frequency" and MineLabs is a bit confusing, because they actually only run on one frequency at a time (from the research I did). When you first power them on, they search for a clear frequency (one) and then operates on that. They do not process but one at a time. And minelabs loves to set back in the shadows and let this conversation roll on. You can't choose a frequency, The display doesn't give you anything about the other 27 frequencies, If you want to hunt lets say gold, you cannot select the best frequency for that, its chooses the quietest one. It doesn't even tell which one its selected. They would have you believe that the detector is constantly scanning the ground with 28 frequencies and then based on what metal it hit it uses the best one for that metal, not so! its running a pre-selected one based on it was the one with the lest interference. What I don't know for sure is do they have a REAL 28 frequencies to choose from, or are the 28 just harmonic frequencies and the detector actually has a much less number to run on, like 3, 5, maybe 10 Who knows, but one thing for sure Minelabs isn't going to come out and settle this, in the shadows they like all the talk, its keeps the name in the top of the post in forums all over the world.

No doubt you have read some of what I have written on other forums about this and the Minelab fans hate you for it, There is One Australian Forum that is Full of Minelab  Boys and God help you if you like other Brands or even WORSE You Prove them WRONG, Even then Their only Come Back is to either Not Reply or Worse.

FBS and BBS DOES NOT run on 28 or 17 Frequencies they Run On 28 or 17 HARMONICS of A Frequency, All They Advertising Hype is Based on the Power of Suggestion and what is IMPLIED within the TEXT. Just Like all their machine that Are Rushed out the Doors of Asian Sweat Shops Unlike the Older Minelabs, Their New FlagShip Detector Is Made of plastic that Snaps and Breaks and At Over $10,700 AUD or In England they Charge £8,499.00 Pounds for It which is Equal to $17,600 AUD or $13,088.48 USD where it is around $9000 in the US so although the EU Factory is only 150 miles away The UK buyers have to Pay an Extra 70% On The Price and they are Now Having to Send They Owners A Ferrite Ring Because It Will Not Ground Balance and The Screens  Keep having Rows of Pixels Drop Out So After spending all that Money People have to send it In and Instead of fixing them Minelab are Just sending out New Machines, They Also Built a GPS In The Thing with ONLY 100 waypoints in it with no way of Saving it to your computer although some people have managed to Crack the Codes and find away Round it, But for this kind of money you should not have to or VOID your Warranty, And it Is NOT Waterproof as Claimed  as it also uses the Same Body That the CTX Uses and that Also Floods The Battery Compartment And the Coils Wear Through In Weeks etc,, Yet the Minelab Fan Boys swear By them. Which is sad because if they Told Minelab that this is not acceptable They would be forced to Release A Better Product,

Then That Brings Us to the SDC 2300, That Turns its self OFF because Of Ill Fitting Battery Holders and if you Don't Use A Certain Brand Of Batteries you are Screwed, And The Coil Knuckle Has to Be Held in Place with a Cable Tie and people are having to Cable Tie Bits of Plastic to the underside of the Joint to Stop it wearing through and again the Minelab Fan Boy WAX Lyrical about This machine that Is A Recycled Mine Detector, So because the spent so much on Tooling  For the MOD Conract They have had to use this Set up Because They Lost The Defence Department Contracts because Other companies made better Products And made them at 10% of the Price so all you the public are Getting is a Recycled F3 Mine Detector. That is Very Badly Made.

And Their Latest Idea is to release a machine that went out of Production 5 or 6 years ago to Try and recover their Losses that the GPZ 7000 Is Causing, So about A week and a half ago they decided to RE Release the GPX 4500, Because they are panicing because Whites or Fisher have some Ground Breaking Technology about to Blow the Detecting world Apart and Minelab needs to keep the Share Holders Happy, SAD SAPPs.

If you want to see What to see the Difference Between MF and SF Machines read this Thread. and compare a $2000+ ML machines and an  $800.00 Whites Machine,  And I found the Exact same Problem as this Member / User,

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	I was told  from neutral detectorist that  Minelab BBS & FBS run at 2 frequencies, 3.125kHz and 25kHz. They transmit them in rapid succession and process both frequencies all the time, so they truly are 2-frequency machines. But certainly not 17 or 28. The noise cancel feature applies a minor shift to the frequencies. 2 frequencies allow for salt rejection which makes it far better for salt water hunting. Theoretically you can do better ground tracking and target ID as well

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 There is No Better Ground Tracking System In The World than Those used On Whites The MXT and The GMT, These Machines will wipe out Hot rocks and Hot Ground and Magnetic coil in ONE Pump Of The Coil, And To this day it has never been Equalled and the Ground Grab Feature That Came out on the GMT other companies have only just started Coping and these machines were Designed and Built By Dave Johnson who Now works At Fisher Labs and Guess what they have started fitting it To Fisher Machines since the Birth of the F75,

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	I think Carl moved over to Fisher too.

Yes Sir, He did, not sure if I am happy about that,lol

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Yes and its Bloody Ugly, there is no way would I change my machines for that pile of junk.

From where I am sitting, You appear to Know a little about A Lot of Machines, Instead of A Lot about A few Machines, So far you have gone in many directions within these 2 topics of yours, I think you should buy a machine and get to know it well and when you are ready to up grade, Re Read these posts and use that info to guide you in the right Direction,

I have many hours invested in my machines and I think you would benefit by getting in some serious Field time and stop believing all that you are reading on the internet, who knows you might even find some treasure too.

HH

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