Could this be part of an old shipwreck?

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	Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « on: September 21, 2014, 01:44:57 pm »

What do you guys recon?

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #1 on: September 21, 2014, 02:32:00 pm »

Sure looks like a skeleton to me. but it could also be from an old mooring or peer of some sort, try and find out from the fishermen if there are any in the area or folks that have been living there for a long time. Old age home are a great source of information too, not to mention that you will get the info that you are looking for but also make someone happy to be able to tell his/her stories to.

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #2 on: September 21, 2014, 03:08:45 pm »

Thanks Xavier,
I never thought of old folks homes; I will look that one up and see what I can find out. I have tracked down over a hundred shipwrecks within 10 kilometres of the area but none at the exact map location for these bits. I have found a George III halfpenny within walking distance of the skeleton and a buddy found a rare trading token. I have been detecting the beach for some three years now and had never noticed the skeleton before an usually low tide caused it to show up.

I am planning to return to the area and give it a good working over with my C-Scope CS4PI and see what can be found in the area between the skeleton and the place where I found the George III halfpenny. Hopefully my buddy will help out and we can cover the area more quickly between tides.

Posted on: September 21, 2014, 02:49:02 pm

Also found this strange item in the same area!

Posted on: September 21, 2014, 02:55:56 pm

It looks like some sort of lid or cover for a hatch. I is rather ornate, hinged, and possibly made from cast iron!

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #3 on: September 21, 2014, 03:14:19 pm »

Just after a storm is a very good time to have a look, I ones found an old steamer while diving in a harbor, I also found the location of a wreck just after a storm, I was walking on the beach and found an old wine bottle unfortunately it had been broken on it's way to shore.

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #4 on: September 21, 2014, 09:41:26 pm »

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I am planning to return to the area and give it a good working over with my C-Scope CS4PI and see what can be found in the area between the skeleton and the place where I found the George III halfpenny. Hopefully my buddy will help out and we can cover the area more quickly between tides. Posted on: September 21, 2014, 02:49:02 pm Also found this strange item in the same area! Posted on: September 21, 2014, 02:55:56 pm It looks like some sort of lid or cover for a hatch. I is rather ornate, hinged, and possibly made from cast iron!

Wow. that’s a huge object. Your coil (if it’s the 10” stock coil) looks so small next to it.
I would definitely go back and have an other look, but with shifting sands it’s very hard.
You need to be there at the right time.

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #5 on: September 22, 2014, 04:17:08 am »

In the last twelve months, the seas have pushed tons and tons of sand up the beach and also chopped large areas off the dunes. Our normal area for detecting is all sanded in and coin finds are few and far between. It looks as though the sea has recently uncovered the wooden skeleton and perhaps that is why we have never noticed it before.

I was thinking of trying salvage the large cast iron object and see if I can clean it up and eventually identify it. Perhaps under all the scale and concretion it will have some identifying markings? It is a bit on the heavy side though! Huh?

Hopefully, me and my buddy will get back to the location this coming weekend and see what we can turn up.

The whole area is like a giant three dimensional jigsaw puzzle and we are slowly putting pieces into place. A metal detecting friend has given us an old sea chart for the area and we are slowly plotting the indicated sites for over one hundred shipwrecks close to where the skeleton is located. Despite taking accurate map references for the skeleton we can find no record for a wreck at that location. I suppose that wrecks, and parts of wrecks, can be moved considerable distances when pushed by heavy seas. The Vikings, the Romans, and all manner of trading ships passed the area; with a considerable number being lost under the influence of historically great storms. Oh my! My imagination is now starting to run away with me and I can hardly wait to get back there this weekend. Great

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 05:09:58 am »

Have you considered that it could be a sub/tank from WW2? That round part looks like some kind of hatch.

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 07:06:09 am »

Hi Xavier,
it looks as though the cast item was in fact hinged but broke away from its fitting. Some have suggested that it may be a hatch cover and some have suggested that it may be a porthole cover. It is rather ornate and patterned on the outer side and when I first saw the rim sticking out of the sand I thought it was going to be a crab or lobster pot. You can imagine my surprise when I discovered that it was made from solid cast iron! Shocked

I think that the patterning on the object would eliminate it from being a hatch cover for a WWII submarine or tank. I know that a very early submarine that was built during the Victorian era sank not many mile away after suffering the loss of her hatch cover whilst under tow during a major storm. No hands were lost during the sinking but she was missing for over a hundred years and was only recently discovered sitting on the bottom, minus her hatch cover. Hmmm!!!

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #8 on: September 22, 2014, 08:21:39 am »

Well it could be the missing cover, I'm not sure what the size of the thing is so a bit hard to visualize what it could come from, for it to have been made out of cast iron means that it had to withstand quite a bit of force/presuer, the shape suggests that the force came from the outside and the more I look at it the more I think that it was made to fit on a sub or boiler.

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	Re: Could this be part of an old shipwreck? « Reply #9 on: September 22, 2014, 10:26:24 am »

Just a thought! Your Ring thing could be a Mast Ring to raise and lower the Sail.

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