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	Perhaps in the future- the technology will catch up with the industry but for the time being I am very skeptical of all these LRL's and MFD's. Steve

Me too! Competetive  advertising can be very mis-leading.That's why I try to share what I have learned about these products, and their limitations so folks don't buy them having  un-realistic expectations.

If I said LRL & RSD didn't work at all,  that would  certainly appease the critics that attack my honesty, but I would then be lieing and placing myself in the same category. I will always tell the truth about my own experiences. That is what I am offering to share on this forum, my own personal  field experiences with Black Box technologies, "when" there is an interest. 

Many thanks for your honest replies.Dell

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Ijust received a thank you,  e-mail of from Ed Meril, saying he sold his FG-80, to someone from out of state. I guess that cancels any opportunity I might have had for using and testing the product.

I'm sorry I was unable to have more field experience to learn, and share more information about it.  I would have liked to have taken it to Alabama, with me to test on the site there, but no such luck.   Dell

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Hi everybody. We tested our FG80 for 2 days. everything was ideal(sunny days, humidity 30-35%, temp: 15 C?)
it's not as simple as they claim. most of the times had random beeps that frustrated us.
working with that is hard and may needs too much practice. we could detect the gold plate only under sun and with maximum sensitivity from 40-50 Cm not more. and surprisingly never beeped for my heavy wedding gold ring. it seems these devices react to reflected energy of metal plate not the metal itself.
first day passed for some experiments and knowing little about its' behavior, then tried to do some serious searching in fields, and got some signals from distance, of course tracking a line is not simple, and most of times after 2-3 beep lose the signal, and have to increase the SENS to track it again. the worse thing is mostly when we reached to the point device started to continuous beep in every directions and this made us much confused.
by changing the SENS could focus it in a smaller area.
at these 2 days we got 7 signal lines and as 3 of them repeated at 2nd day, it's clear it detects something, but what's the exact, still we don't know.
another problem is using the center & Deep, sometimes it responds (hardly) for detected point and mostly without second point, then can't know what's the real depth and the worse, what's the target dimensions!!!.
if weather be good, we will do some diggings (of course with our MD accompany) by the time we understand the real behavior & language of FG80, should use MD among with it. anyway it needs much time to become expert by it and we are mystified specially with this very deficient manual.


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for our 2nd trip and 3 days working by FG80, we had some repeatable
and constant signals for in different conditions; one day humidity
40% temp: 10 C? another day humidity 85% temp 7-8 C?. we could get and easily pinpoint signals on the ground; one was from 10-15 meters another from 50-70 meters.
surprisingly C&D was working like as determining by only FG80.
one place was at 1 meter depth another place ( which itself was 3 points!!!)
at 4.5 meters. after measuring point and depth from every direction,
we decided to work on less depth(1 meter) and be sure what is it really doing.
our PI MD gave no signal. we dug there to 150 Cm depth with 1 meter diameter, only found a very very ancient grave with some bones and smashed ceramic, nothing more!!!.
we searched all the hole by our MD, no metal, no metal,....
now we are in high hesitation to dig only based on FG80 results. maybe we need
some special leadings, maybe it has problem in pinponting,... anyway we are going to loose our temper for this device as it behaves crazy many times ( continuous and meaningless beepings).
sometimes we have signal in 1-3 times horizontal movement then disappears whereas have it only in vertically movement!!!,.......

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It is very nice to see every one getting along here HH

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