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« Reply #170 on: November 17, 2010, 10:52:48 am »
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Speaking with my friend, Bob Fitzgerald, he tells me he helped develop the technique way back, and that he NEVER got auras from iron.

If iron has no aura why would you think gold or silver would???
Think about it if it worked they would not be here trying to sell the book but out digging up treasure. It make little sense to share a sure fire system with the world till you have all you need. They just like the guys selling LRL are the How to win at blackjack system scam artist. Why sell something that makes you money. Yeah I heard the story more then once I got all I need so am sharing with the world for only XXX.95 BS even Bill Gates don't have all he wants its all a scam

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« Reply #171 on: November 17, 2010, 11:48:58 am »
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I couldn't agree more. The amazing thing for me is that by misleading people so they can make $20 or whatever, they are causing them harm in that the person will spend thousands to pursue a false avenue.
I had also this situation with a Jerry Nokes regarding map dowsing. His sites are completely bereft of any success and even some geologically impossible as well as extremely unlikely due to story, conditions and common sense.
Having the best large area and deep seeking equipment, if something was there, I would find it.
Since Mr. Nokes advertised showing "exactly where to dig" and I searched areas much larger, I asked to be refunded the measly sum of $40 a site. He has refused.
If his skills were so accurate, wouldn't such a sum be paltry to him?
Apparently not, from which we can deduce that he is fraudulent and willing to make $40 even though it will cost the client thousands to chase his phantom BS.
Amazing to me the harm some people are willing to do others for such small sums.

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« Reply #172 on: November 17, 2010, 01:02:38 pm »
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Your got a point Thor thats why you will see the moderators fight so hard to keep the scammer's in line. I think that the folks that claim to have no investment in say LRL etc. have been had and feel the need to justify their gullibility by inconveniencing the rest of us that the BS is true 

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« Reply #173 on: November 17, 2010, 02:58:52 pm »
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If his skills were so accurate, wouldn't such a sum be paltry to him?

That's always been a sticking point for the dowsers and LRL proponents. If their stuff worked so well, why are they still living in less than the lap of luxury? They're all still just scraping by offering their services to make OTHERS rich. One guy actually said here on this very forum that he can't use his own abilities to enhance his own life. Only others. Yet he wants you to believe he can teach you how to find untold riches. If it works like it does for him, you can only find riches for everyone else. Why bother?

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« Reply #174 on: November 17, 2010, 05:00:08 pm »
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Yes! Look at the Emperors' clothes- aren't they beautiful! And they have such an aura about them!

Posted on: November 17, 2010, 03:42:14 PM
The cameras that Villanueva recommends for his protocol are the Canon Rebel 350 or 400 Digital.
My experience has been, however, after hundreds of pics and careful reproduction of his techniques, that it does not work as prescribed.
Another matter is that there really is little difference between any model of high end Digi still cam as far as false color IR. The IR blocker is pretty standard on all.
Never the less, the technique as sold, doesn't work at all. But at least he makes $20!

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« Reply #175 on: November 17, 2010, 06:40:47 pm »
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Yes! Look at the Emperors' clothes- aren't they beautiful! And they have such an aura about them!

Posted on: November 17, 2010, 03:42:14 PM
The cameras that Villanueva recommends for his protocol are the Canon Rebel 350 or 400 Digital.
My experience has been, however, after hundreds of pics and careful reproduction of his techniques, that it does not work as prescribed.
Another matter is that there really is little difference between any model of high end Digi still cam as far as false color IR. The IR blocker is pretty standard on all.
Never the less, the technique as sold, doesn't work at all. But at least he makes $20!


Villanueva also recommends/endorses/uses LRL's and dowsing. There is a pattern to the chicanery 

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« Reply #176 on: November 18, 2010, 11:46:05 pm »
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The amazing thing for me is that by misleading people so they can make $20 or whatever, they are causing them harm in that the person will spend thousands to pursue a false avenue.
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Amazing to me the harm some people are willing to do others for such small sums.


If that's what you think of a fellow who misleads people with a $20 junk book, I'll bet you consider a fellow who misleads people by selling them a $10,000 junk LRL to be absolute scum!



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« Reply #177 on: November 22, 2010, 04:28:48 pm »
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~Carl~
If that's what you think of a fellow who misleads people with a $20 junk book, I'll bet you consider a fellow who misleads people by selling them a $10,000 junk LRL to be absolute scum!
Yes Carl?That is exactly how I feel about you?Art


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~Carl~
If that's what you think of a fellow who misleads people with a $20 junk book, I'll bet you consider a fellow who misleads people by selling them a $10,000 junk LRL to be absolute scum!
Yes Carl?That is exactly how I feel about you?Art


Yet, oddly enough, Carl isn't trying to sell you on magical treasure location using the hair on your arms raising up. You believe what you want to believe. You believe and do what you want to do. Try and sell a box of nothing for $10,000 and you will face lots of criticism. That's what Carl is talking about.

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~Carl~
If that's what you think of a fellow who misleads people with a $20 junk book, I'll bet you consider a fellow who misleads people by selling them a $10,000 junk LRL to be absolute scum!
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