Shallow Water Treasure - Who dares wins!

		Quote:			Posted by SVBerry
	We are discussing choices here, not debating facts. Any detector is only as good as the one using it. This is a sport / hobby has many levels of knowledge in it. I hunt PIs but I wish they were faster. But I look around and evaluate where I can use the area to my advantage. Research and knowledge are major players here and opinion is just a waste of breath.

Unless you are the designer of the detector under discussion, all you HAVE is opinion. Practice, as you note, probably makes you the best that you can be with your machine.

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    Clearly this hobby has its apprentices, its journeymen, and its masters.   And two definite masters have spoken......Practice which in turn leads to knowing what you can and can not do with your machine and how to compensate for any "short comings" it might have is what leads to mastering the machine.   
    The machine is no better than the person using it, but the better the tool, the better the results when the tool is in the one that understands the tool, the medium, and the craft.

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The old adage "Practice makes perfect" is often forgotten 

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Thanks for all the good info. Going to try water detecting this summer.

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		Quote:			Posted by Alan Hassell
	Maybe theres more junk on your beaches because the people over there dont use rubbish bins that are provided on beaches? Maybe you never bothered to remove the rubbish you dug up and left it for someone else to remove, I have experienced that myself. Sure when you initially got into the hobby you had it all to yourself with little or no competition no use moaning that other people got in on the act.  Thats life, thats progress for you. Maybe because of all the publicity thats gone into promoting the hobby has made the general public more aware to be more careful and remove their jewellry before entering the water.  Hence less losses and less finds to be made. Your not the only one who misses the good old days when the pickings were good.  You Rave on about your modified Sovereign like its the best machine in the world... Well I know for a fact that the Sovereign does not have the depth of a Pulse and you do too if you made test.  That doesnt bother me because the targets you miss because you cannot hear them will be found by someone using a Pulse. Discriminating detectors are for old geriatrics too lazy to dig every target and a good pulse will get more finds than anything Minelab ever produced.  In this game its horses for courses you like your minelab I prefer Pulse If your so hot in the water why dont you put some of your finds up here so show how good your really are?  Put your money where your mouth is JCP Let the members see just how good you really are instead of blowing a load of Hot Air trying to make a big man of yourself.   no disrespect but words in here mean stuff all without proof.

Whoa, so it seems you like to attack people. Where did you get all the wise cracks that you assumed? I saved my trash when I dug it because I always expected to go back again, I also picked up more glass than I ever wanted to. I wrote one of the earliest articles on ring hunting in the water, (1975) which "told people to hunt the water", why would you say I was "moaning" about how other people got into the act? Just stating a fact, and that is that people just won't find like we did in the old days, and that includes you and your old stories and articles which lead newbies to believe the land is paved with riches just laying everywhere. As for my Sovereign, it works well and though I have tried many other machines, I still use it most often, so do many other people. I gather you have a dislike for Minelab by your statement. I have had several pulse detectors and not all are so good, some are, and my Aquastar is one of the best ones, and yes it does go deep. As for depth, ground conditions still can make a difference on depth, but when there is too much trash, and yes "Too Much Trash", that's when I go to a discriminator. I said many times, there is a place for the different type machines, that is why they make them. I currently have 6 detectors, I think I can say I have different machines for different jobs.  I quote you " Discriminating detectors are for old geriatrics too lazy to dig every target", what a crock of bull. They are made so people in trash areas don't have to dig too much trash, and waste all their time on digging trash. I don't have to brag about my finds, I am in a club here in the US and they see what I find. I have no need to present myself as a "big man", I state my ideas and facts and let them carry for themselves. It is you who are reprinting all your old articles like you are the father of metal detecting with a pulse or anything else. I guess no one can question you or doubt your words of wisdom, even if they may be wrong at times. I have nothing to prove and don't need to. All in all, I am really surprised at your attack on me.

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