Hunting the 1715 Plate Fleet

No one knows where it is for sure, or it would have been found by now. I wonder if it might be out on the outer reef to the southeast where the guys often fish, it would be pretty scattered if it was. If it was in the inlet, the inlet has changed thru all the years and it would not be accessable any more, long since buried. Interesting anyway that no one has found it.

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Good to see you fixed the direction on your post. I figure if the ship was sunk in a hurricane, it would have come from the south or SE. If it was sunk in a Noreaster (which could happen), it could be in the NE area and some of the debri could make it across the inlet as it was back then. I just doubt a Noreaster sunk it. As for where he is now, it is just south of the inlet by about 100 feet at the thin reef line, and he has worked inward toward the beach to the rocks there, and have found items from the wreck. If there is a reef area out in 30 feet or so of water to the SE, than the hull could have pounded apart on that first and spewed a narrow field across the area. But another problem, he only has salvage rights for the Wreck area and this outer area would be off limits to salvage for him. Not that he couldn't explore it, but couldn't keep anything found until he went through the miserable task of getting the lease for the whole area. As it was, the original guy who found this had a major fight with the state for a few years about leasing it, and wasn't allowed to blow holes for a few years later on it. A diffi area to work, as the state keeps putting sand on the beach every 3 years or so, and it washes out over the known wreck area burying everything over and over again. Blowing holes in the sand there gives about 15-20 feet depth, but who knows what is down 30-40 feet, and is there a hard bottom somewhere? Plus the black swamp water that comes out of the inlet makes it bad sometimes.

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There is an article I wrote on the Treasure Net titeled  ,, the Wind the Wind ,,   . Since I am no longer welcome at the Treasure Net  , maybe one of the members Robert Gecy can help you on a copy of it . It will explain most of the thigs around the 1715 wrecks .  Cornelius

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cornelius ( VIA INFO GATHERED FROM THE OCT 24TH , 1715 "SPOTSWOOD" LETTER)-- the vessel in nassau sound , florida was not a "original fleet" 1715 vessel but rather a  60 foot  or so single masted "barcalonga" type  recovery vessel that was sent to the 1715 fleet wreck site to recover VIP'S and high value royal and other items for immedate shipment forward to spain (in this matter this vessel was differant than the others sent there -- the king want his stuff for the queen NOW!!!)-- the rest of the recovery and salvage vessels were instructed to return the silver and other lesser treasure items  to havana for security reasons and for "reshipment"  upon other vessels back to spain after being "properly" accounted for - ( royal havana officals had to account to the king later on why there was more gold and silver recovered from the wrecked vessels --than was listed on the manifest * ---after a shipwreck you should have less gold / silver than what was listed on the manifest not more -- thus clearly this was "proof" of massive and rampant smuggling and the "appointed" royal anti smuggling folks had to explain how they did such a shoddy job --  some folks were in very deep trouble behind these facts. ---   

thus IN MY VIEW  the st augustine area is the northern most area of lost vessels * since --the words " "wreckage of a large vessel or vessels was found on the coast NORTH of st augustine" if properly translated and not just "word swapped "spanish for english -- "wreckage of a large vessel or vessels was found on the NORTH coast of st augustine."

just as in spanish *--one says--" la casa rojo" --the house red -- or the "thing": and what about it  ---In english its "the red house" -- what about it , then the thing --- if one was  tired or unfamilar with "translating" spanish properly  --and  was just doing straight word swaps with out taking this into account how the langauge is spoken differantly than english --- one would get  from salmons statement  "wreckage of the COAST NORTH of st augustine" thus making one think a good bit north of st augustine  ---but if it was  "properly" translated --it becomes " wreckage on the NORTH COAST of st augustine" --thus close to st augustine*  A SMALL BUT HIGHLY IMPORTANT DIFFERANCE*

THUS FOLKS READING THIS  CLUE THOUGHT the  salmon "clue" ---"on the coast north of st augustine"meant  the nassau sound wreck ****  -- (because folks in the past have found 1715 type items  there in nassau sound*** ) thus they in error "linked" the two ---thus thinking nassau sound harbored a "original 1715 fleet" wreck site --when it was really a recovery vessel that however was still loaded very high value items and vips and their  goods that had been gathered from the southern 1715 fleet wreck sites and was on its way back to spain.

the spotswood ( english governor of virgina) letter of oct 24th , 1715 to the british home sec stanhope  in a PS at the bottom of the letter tells --just what type of vessel it was (barcalonga)--where it came from (havana) --where it went to (the 1715 fleet site) --what it was doing (recovering vips and treasure) --and that it sank about 40 miles northward of st augustine . ---all the details of the vessel  in nassau sound is there neatly "wrapped up"-- of course with it being a 1715 fleet recovery vessel--- of course it had the exact same type of items as those recovered from the "original" vessels of the 1715 fleet * to the south which accounts for those 1715 items being found in nassau sound 

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Good postigs my friends . This makes my heart beat faster .   Cornelius

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