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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2011, 01:39:22 am »
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With that attitude, you wouldn't last 5 minutes as a moderator, mate. We're fair game to the dispossessed.

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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2011, 06:29:38 am »
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With that attitude, you wouldn't last 5 minutes as a moderator, mate. We're fair game to the dispossessed.

I bow to your superior knowledge as a moderator.

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« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2011, 09:33:56 am »
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Seems you can't prove Global moderators wrong by asking that they provide a basic performance detail which anyone who had tried the detector would know.

" I prefer a P.I. myself" was the comment made by GoldDigger and I can go to the Garrett importer and buy a Garrett SeaHunter II for less, so why buy a Pro ?
 
As the original question about what would be best in salt water why have a Pro that Brad (Garrett Customer Service) says doesn't have any special circuit or software to cope with salt water effects. Could be why their latest catalogue says "not recommended for salt water use".

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« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2011, 10:13:46 am »
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They can be proven wrong with facts which you have few of.
I suggest to you Blackhat that before GD eats you alive you drop this and move on to other subjects Please.

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Seems you can't prove Global moderators wrong by asking that they provide a basic performance detail which anyone who had tried the detector would know.

" I prefer a P.I. myself" was the comment made by GoldDigger and I can go to the Garrett importer and buy a Garrett SeaHunter II for less, so why buy a Pro ?
 
As the original question about what would be best in salt water why have a Pro that Brad (Garrett Customer Service) says doesn't have any special circuit or software to cope with salt water effects. Could be why their latest catalogue says "not recommended for salt water use".

He asked for my comments. I gave them. You came along and started arguing and slamming the machine without any real knowledge at all about the question. You did a few Google searches and came up with some negative comments and you swallowed them whole cloth. That's the issue here. Not my rightness or wrongness on the issue. I am an electronics engineer with design background in metal detectors and embedded processors. That sort of qualifies me to answer questions like this.

I do prefer a PI but the questioner indicated he wanted to use his machine in a multitude of ways making the PI impractical. As I stated, there is a place for the VLF/TR in salt water use. They've been used there for years with great success. The operator skills are the key to that success.

You have also made statements that I "admitted" something which I clearly did not. But then, why bother with facts now. You've ignored them. You may continue this game if you wish, mate, but I'd rather discuss other, more pleasant topics.

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Now that's not at all necessary. A kiss on the ring would be acceptable.

It's not knowledge that gets us the job, it's volunteerism at work. You volunteer to help and to moderate discussions. The problem comes up when a user decides to "take on" a moderator. It would surprise you just how much we have to do as moderators to keep this the friendly, helpful place that it is.

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I suggest to you Blackhat that before GD eats you alive you drop this and move on to other subjects Please.

I don't eat people from Britain. I prefer people from Hawaii.

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Thanks guys, this was fun reading all these posts.  I just wish I understood all the technical jargon, but that's OK.  I also wish I had a real PUB down the street that I could walk to and have a pint with all of you.  That'd be great.  Oh well, I'll just go have a cold Sam Adams Winter Lager at my own Bar in the Man-Cave.

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« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2011, 05:09:09 pm »
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I solved my problem of whether it's worth it to buy a more expensive detector or the at pro. Saturday I went out on the beach in the cold metal detecting. And with my Minelab Safari I got a 17 signal which I usually get pull tabs or an occasional bottle cap. I dug up a Platinum 950 wedding ring. I'm not gonna sell it. Now I just feel I can put some extra money into a more expensive machine. I've read a lot of posts and seen a lot of positive feedback on this detector.  I'm gonna get a Minelab Excalibur 1000.  I do appreciate the help and even the criticism.  thanks   Dave

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« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2011, 05:20:23 pm »
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Minelab Excalibur 1000.

Good choice  Please give us a review once you get and and have a few hours use with it.

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I will. I'm gonna order one this week and weather permitting you'll get a review.

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Here we go again !  Dave asks for a detector for wading.He has other detectors. I say hang on (there's little water hunting at Cape Cod for a good few months yet), let the hype settle and he may well be able to pick up one cheaper as is happening here, main reason being that some have trouble reading the display. This is really having a go at Garrett ? Weird. Or perhaps others take my post as a attempt to bankrupt Garrett.
I'm then accused of not trying one by someone who has certainly not tried one. You could have just said take a picture and prove it or serial number. But that couldn't happen because I would have asked the same.

As for hammered silver being "cobs" is a Rolls Royce a Holden when its in Australia ? Cobs are thicker and usually irregular in shape.
No hammered silver on that part of the East Coast you say (or was it only one or two) ?  Do the research and you will find what's been lost and found. Plus a few Roman, Viking a few feet down in Maine in 1957, or go down Route 16 through Massachusetts past the site of the North African Islamic hoard found in 1787.

As for electronics experience that should have provided enough income to buy a few good detectors which would provide good and plentiful finds.

Better explain "advertise" while I'm here. Not to many have bought the Pro in the U.K. because they already have good land detectors and beach machines. For a few dollars more I can buy (if I didn't already own one) a Whites PI Dual Field. For less, and in many cases much less, a Fisher F70 or new Goldbug, DFX, X-Terra 705, MXT 300 or even a Garrett Sea Hunter Mk II.

The price that was to be ?650, now ?599 still converts to around $950 or you can import a "grey" machine for a fraction of the price which some did to avoid the new tax increase. Problem is faults or dead on arrival and the main dealer quite rightly says you have bypassed me so send it back to who you bought it from. To get a couple of the AT's together you have to advertise as I did on some British forums to find one within a hundred miles or so and we have just gone from snow to floods. With the Whites DF I finally managed to get together four machines and suprise, suprise, though there was only one inch air test difference between the best and worse there was no way the depths being quoted on the Whites forums could be managed. I even got a leading U.S. detector user to test in the low/no mineralisation ground of Florida. I was accused of working for Minelab at this point. With the T2 (I had one of the first to arrive in the U.S. Sports shops) build problems led to my having a couple of replacements. I said hold on till the problems were resolved and when problems were sorted with the 6.0, recommended to buy. Very nice detector, even better with the 6.5 and later versions. I still have mine. Was accused of being anti First Texas though so I shall add Garrett proudly to the companies that I've supposed to be against (didn't like the Infinium either so add that to my crimes).
 

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