Weapons that are considered Destroyed by Authorties

Hello Everyone,
                    Coincounter had made a post about firearms that were turned into the police and what was done with them. Well I decided to make a post here as a caution to my fellow
Treasure Hunters. Nowdays when weapons marked for destruction are cut up or torched by local mills that have the capability of making sure that these weapons will never hit the street again. Before this type of distruction was done, Some agencies used to place them in
55 gal drums after dismantling them, with concreate in the bottom of the drum and then welding the top of the drum shut. It is unknown how many police agencies did this. However
If you ever come upon one of these I would'nt even bother with it because if a person is found in the possession of a weapon that was marked destroyed one will find that it is more trouble than the salavage is worth. I was told the last time this type of destruction was done was in the early 70's. I was told where some of these drums are located, would I love to get them I sure would!!!!!! But is it worth getting a bunch of headaches and possible jail time NO WAY!! I just thought Id pass this tid- bit along. As Always Best Wishes & Happy Hunting,,,Rob

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Homefire,
             Once a weapon is considered destroyed by authorties and,if the parts thereof or any whole firearm listed as destroyed is found in the hands of a civilian after it
has been logged as destroyed said civilian or citizan whichever you prefer will go to jail.
There are police officers that have been jailed for this offence.  As for me I enjoy my freedom just a bit to much! In this case its better to leave these guns in thier resting place.....Rob

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Posted this subject on the Firing Line Forum.

It seems to be a subjective subject and what little responses it got are mixed.

Subject was shut down as a no brainier.


I would have to deal with it as I found it.

Local laws would come to play.

Property would come to play.

There is no National Registration on Fire Arms.

If you Purchase one from any place other then a FFL dealer, there is little to no Paper on them.  These most likely happened way before there was as  http://www.atf.gov/forms/4473/page03.htm   was not required.

As this practice was years ago, and would not be conducted (WITHIN THE LAW) today, I dought many will be found while still in usable condition.

I would not wish to become number 8876668 in the penal system.

But I would have a hard time walking away from  a few thousand dollars in parts.

The only part of a Fire Arm that is controlled by number is the Receiver and or Frame.

All other parts would be fair game.   


Would that be the Right thing to do? 

No!

But would I be Temped ?   

Yes!

Would I do it?    I really Don't Know!









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Hi airwing,
              In this instance they had the police armor dismantle the weapons in question
and they fellt at the time it was the best way for them to keep control over them, The police dept then would go out at such a time when no-one was around, and sink them.
               The one agency that I know of that did this now has them destroyed at foundry
that has the contract to dispose of these firarms. But even then they have police officals
watch during the process,so that none can be shall we say lost and recovered at a later time. Best Wishes ,,,,Rob

 

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Back in 67/ 68,from what I understand, a police agency  used to dump guns off the western florida coast. Some character had a wife or girl friend that knew when they were being taken out, and would notify him.. He and a bunch of friends would be in the area fishing. When the police left, they would hang around, mark the spot, leave and come back in a day or so to do some diving..He was selling salvaged guns for $15, and $20 dollars each..Never knew who he was or when in town or I would have purchased a few for parts..Actually not, wqs usually near broke in those days...Cordially Nad

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Delfavor you reminded me of something I remembered from years ago. The Navy helped disguard old armor art and heavy and light weapons by dumping them into the ocean to form man made reefs off coast lines. California Hawaii and many of our island chains out there. Buddy of mine came to me and told me he was going to salvage some of it never knew if he did or not. His thing was the crates of M1 and M14 that were dumped. I tried to explain to him that it would be useless to go get them because salt water eats everything in time everything would be useless in a couple of years. I got the glazed over eye from him and he never spoke of it again. I always thought the small arms was skuttlebutt anyway.

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I can't help thinking that some of the more desirable weapons are kept and collected by some of the law men. Surely they wouldn't just throw away some antique fire arm that has pretty decent value.......Or would they???

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Besides being an avid relic and coin hunter, I also do a bit of target shooting. An old gentleman down the road from where I live does a lot of the trigger work on my .45's. He was a USMC armorer. He told me that one time he was part of a group that did dump rifles into the ocean. They were of the Springfield 03 and 30-40- Krag type of rifles. From what he has told me, a senate oversight committee back in the late 60's and early 70's thought that it would be better to destroy or dump the weapons in the ocean, rather than a citizen getting them. I guess at the time it was easier and cheaper to dump them than to demilitarize them. Sad thing, I have sen some 30-40 Krags and they would be a nice mantle gun or hunting rifle. I have shot the 03 Springfield and was very impressed with it's accuracy.

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